How can Hillary win?

Hillary Clinton leads among Democrats in almost every poll, but can she really win?
This is the first in a series of articles in which will analyze the campaigns of the nationally prominent candidates.  The analysis is based on information we've gathered from ratings, comments and debate at U4prez.com. As has often been said before, U4prez members aren't "likely voters", they are voters.
There can be no doubt that Senator Clinton enjoys passionate support from a committed base.  She has been rated more times than any other nationally prominent candidate on the site and she leads the Democrats. While we are still at the early stages of the election process, it would appear that Mrs. Clinton has the nomination wrapped up.  Yet we still hear the constant buzzing of "unelectable" in the background. The negatives are just too high. Is that tide starting to turn?  A recent Gallup poll  surmises that Hillary's negative numbers aren't any worse than BIll Clinton or George Bush had prior to their election victories.

Behind those numbers is a disturbing trend if you are a Hillary supporter.
The Gallup poll misses the point.  Yes,  the negatives are similar to others who have gone on to win. So what?  Let's be honest, it's not so much the number, as it is the intensity of the number.  While she has racked up over 2500 votes, she trails many prominent Republicans.  The reason for this is her negatives are so  high. Every day Hillary Clinton receives several ratings or "votes" of ten.  These are her die hard supporters. She also receives several ratings of one.  When we contrast this with Fred Thompson, who leads the prominent Republicans, and trails only U4prez candidate Ray McKinney we see a completely different pattern.  Mr. Thompson enjoys the same passionate support that Hillary enjoys. The difference is in the negatives, or lack thereof.  The u4prez members who do not support him, are likely to vote him a three or four at the lowest.  What this indicates, is that these voters would probably support Fred, if he were the Republican nominee.  In the worst case, they are not likely to go out and  vote specifically against him.

Is there any way for Hillary to turn off those negatives?
Yes, but words alone won't work, it's going to take action..  For Hillary Clinton to have any real chance of becoming president she must neutralize the negatives, or the "anti-Hillary" crowd.   The voter who doesn't like what Hillary stands for, and in fact has a high negative opinion of her, isn't going to listen to her campaign speeches, or advertised sound bites.  Her ambling move to the center is a step in the right direction. But with no concrete legislation, or voting records to back it up, it comes across as disingenuous rhetoric.  To capture the attention of those committed to voting against her, she's going to have to introduce legislation, or support legislation that is contrarian to her perceived image.  For this gambit to work, it's going to have to be both loud and controversial.  A sotto voce on gun control just isn't going to fill the bill. 

So is there an issue she can run with?
Actually, there are two, and believe it or not, one of them is health care. The disastrous health care plan devised in the early 1990's could produce a golden opportunity for Senator Clinton to pull in a new and very broad support base.  Hidden in that ill conceived concept was Tort reform.  If in short order Mrs. Clinton can pull off a major piece of legislation aimed at protecting doctors and pharmaceuticals from frivolous or excessive law suits, she could turn the tide.  This issue is probably her best chance, because she would only alienate the trial lawyers.  This is a golden opportunity to pare down the negatives,and it would create an opportunity for her to be to the right of Fred Thompson on a very important issue.  While in the Senate Thompson voted against medical malpracticeTort reform believing it to be a state issue.

The other opportunity lies in Iraq. This is a bit more dangerous, but the reward would be much bigger.  The danger lies in alienating her base.  It would appear on the surface that supporting the war in Iraq would crush her chances at the nomination.  But this isn't really the case when we look a little deeper. She has never been at the forefront of the anti war movement, and has in fact taken quite a bit of heat for her tepid support of the war on terror, and specifically the war in Iraq.  If the senator from New York where to introduce legislation committing the troops to Iraq or supporting the war, she would quickly neutralize one of her largest groups of detractors.  She may not get their
vote, but she may stop them from voting against her.

The bottom line?
It's going to be un uphill struggle, and conventional wisdom is probably right, she can't win. The gallup poll is simply a surface comparison and doesn't delve in to the level of negative feeling for Senator Hillary Clinton.   The vitriolic comments on U4prez about Hillary don't bode well for the future.  The Democrats on the site, while not necessarily negative, still fall in to two camps; die hard supporters, or those resigned to try and support someone else in the primary.  Actions speak louder than words, and to win, she's going to need some awfully loud actions. 


Eric Gurr
U4prez.com

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  • 9/4/2007 6:18 PM Alias Pseudonym(Copulate) wrote:
    First off, you guys really should consider writing AND publishing more of these articles.

    Second, you guys really should consider writing AND publishing these articles using a reader friendly font size.

    Other than that, I'd like to say I enjoyed reading this and appreciate every second of the five minutes someone spent writing this article.

    Keep it up...after all, it doesn't take that much time...does it? LoL
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  • 9/4/2007 9:38 PM Kempite wrote:
    I find the conclusions reached by the u4prez evaluation to be largely correct. I initially did not believe that Hillary Clinton would get the nomination. After seeing how John Edwards has been on the ground and doing the “below the radar work” necessary to get things done, I believed that in the end he would capture the Democrat nod. I felt Hillary as well as Obama would flame out while Edwards maintained his slow and steady run to the finish.

    At this point in time Hillary and her campaign have overcome her shrill like image much more than I anticipated and she has proven to have legs. Although it is yet to be seen if she can maintain those legs and completely sideline John Edwards but it looks like the chances are good.

    In the end anything can happen. Yet it is my opinion that if Hillary becomes the Democrat nominee she can only win the Presidency if Republicans completely derail and their nominee gives the impression of incompetence and a lack of confidence.

    There are too many middle of the road to right leaning Americans who have a deep rooted dislike for not only Hillary but her policies. That is compounded by their lack of trust in her word and a divisive history on her part, all of which amounts to Hillary’s high and strong negative ratings.

    It is my contention that any legislative initiative on her part to support the ongoing struggle for peace in Iraq will not only create resentment from her liberal base but it will not be viewed seriously by many in the middle of the political spectrum or to the right. In fact they would not believe her at all.

    On a closing note I would like to dispute the impression given by the editorials statement in regards to Republican Fred Thompson. To quote the article “While in the Senate Thompson voted against medical malpractice Tort reform believing it to be a state issue.

    Although there may have been different versions of Tort Reform that Senator Thompson has occasionally rejected, in some cases that was done because the specific bills in question were simply ineffective or went too far and off topic. I state this because there are many instances where the senator has supported Tort Reform such as the following two votes:

    Voted YES on limiting product liability punitive damage awards
    Approval of a limit on punitive damages in product liability cases.
    Status: Conf Rpt Agreed to Y)59; N)40; NV)1
    Reference: Conference Report on H.R. 956; Bill H. R. 956 ; vote number 1996-46 on Mar 21, 1996

    Voted YES on restricting class-action lawsuits
    Restriction of class-action security lawsuits.
    Status: Veto Overridden Y)68; N)30; P)1
    Reference: H.R. 1058 passage over veto; Bill H.R. 1058 ; vote number 1995-612 on Dec 22, 1995

    There are also several instances of support for specific, reasonable, limited Tort Reform measures dealing with medical malpractice by Senator Thompson.
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  • 9/8/2007 5:06 PM Albert Howard wrote:
    hillary has a lot of fiat money with no substance
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  • 9/13/2007 11:02 PM Billary wrote:
    Hillary eats worms.
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    1. 9/24/2007 7:50 AM Albert Howard wrote:
      so does that make her husbands vice prez al gore the earth worm?
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  • 9/24/2007 7:46 AM Albert Howard wrote:
    I am shaking hands with Hillary Rodham Clinton on the front page of my presidential website!

    I am the only student in University of Michigan history to sing the National Anthem acapella in Michigan Stadium for the 1993 commencement exercise. Hillary gave the commencement speech. 50,000 people were in attendance that day.

    For the record, Hillary Rodham Clinton is a Modern-Day Jezebel who operates in a Spirit of Witchcraft.

    And that's the way it is live from Ann Arbor, MI
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  • 9/25/2007 6:17 AM Albert Howard wrote:
    In a rare interview, the 43rd Bush says Hillary will win the Democratic nomination but a Republican will ultimately be the next 44th President

    That's encouraging!
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